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The Firing Line: 11/02/09

By Daily Texan Staff

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Published: Monday, November 2, 2009

Updated: Monday, November 2, 2009

Cut cruelty out of your diet

In response to Jordan Haeger’s Oct. 28 article, “Campaign mobilizes against animal abuse,” I would like to thank Haeger for reporting on the recent visit of peta2’s thought-provoking “Liberation” display to the UT campus. The exhibit aims to draw parallels between the abuses humans have inflicted on each other throughout history and the abuses we are currently inflicting on animals — some of which are taking place right here on campus.

Contrary to what one UT faculty member suggested in the article, the pain and suffering endured by the sensitive, intelligent animals who are tormented in UT’s laboratories is not alleviated by some paperwork being filled out by experimenters or the paltry regulations that exist. For example, in the laboratory of UT’s Eyal Seidemann, monkeys have had holes drilled into their skulls and portions of their craniums removed so that experimenters can monitor the monkeys’ brain activity when they perform different tasks while immobilized in a restraint device — all entirely permissible by law.

Thankfully, there are simple steps each of us can take to reduce the suffering of animals. For instance, every time we choose to buy products not tested on animals, we are taking a stand against animal abuse. Similarly, by picking a veggie burger over a hamburger, we are sending the message that violence toward animals will not be tolerated. With so many delicious meatless options available today, including vegetarian barbecue riblets and vegan pizza, it’s never been easier to cut cruelty out of your diet for good.

For more information about animal rights and to view peta2’s “Liberation” display online, visit peta2.com.

— Ryan Huling, Senior College Campaign Coordinator, peta2.com

Comments

22 comments
defnn
Thu Nov 12 2009 12:54
Peaceman:
Bacteria and viruses are living things too. Does that mean we shouldn't wash our hands or take antibiotics? Plants are living creatures too, does that mean we shouldn't eat them? Have you ever been to a farm or produce packaging plant with all the grinders and shredders? Have you ever seen what happens to brocolli? What are you a breathairian?
VegansAreTakingOver
Wed Nov 11 2009 02:57
To all the people that love to call anyone that cares about animals crazy, extreme and overly senstive, I DARE YOU, just DARE YOU to even watch on video (not even in person, in person surely you couldn't even handle it) but just chanllenge you to watch videos of todays slaughterhouses and see where you 'tasty' meat is coming from and really ask yourself, are you okay with that? Could you do those things yourself with your own hands? and Would you ever want to?? If the answer is yes, you are probably a sociopath and need serious help (many slaugherhouse workers are criminals) if the answer is no, why are you still eating meat? (just because its tastes good?? really where is your backbone!!! WAKE UP
peaceman
Mon Nov 9 2009 18:21
Should abuse come with a disclaimer??? Is it okay to abuse one living being but not another. Is cruelty unacceptable except for animals? Until we extend our compassion to include ALL living beings, we will never know peace...NEVER!!!!
ernest james
Sat Nov 7 2009 11:13
hi Your name. it doesnt matter if animals are on the same level as we are. As AN writes above, animals are enough like us to use them for experiments to find cures for human illnesses. what animal rightist are trying to get people to notice is that animals feel pain and that they suffer. that is certainly a human characteristic. Animals also bond with each other, mourn their young, defend each other, and visit their dead. Hmmm...they sound so human. What supporters of vivisection argue is contridictory: animals are enough like us to use them to experiment on but not enough like us for us to care. Well, I care. I dont support animal torture because it's cruel. We can save more human lives from top killers like cancer, heart attacks and stroke by getting people to eat healthy, exercise, and stop smoking. Simple, isn't it? Your government can save 100s of billions on research and healthcare if you make healthy choices. Dont force animals to suffer in labs because of our unhealthy habits.
Vegan
Thu Nov 5 2009 15:59
David: Don't tell people what they don't know about. Just because the economy is "improving" doesn't mean it's all that strong. There is still massive unemployment which hasn't been appreciably affected by this pulling out of the depression you mention. Oil prices are rising, and if you recall, that's one the causes of the economic meltdown. It wasn't just greedy investment bankers and questionable lending practices, although they played their part. And by the way, growing your own food in any economy is good advice. There may be a difference between vegan vegetarian dishes and other vegetarian dishes, but I challenge you to make a reasoned distinction between vegan green beans and vegetarian green beans.
Kelly
Thu Nov 5 2009 12:02
David- you just said that vegan products are not that tasty but admit to loving fruits and vegetables, vegetarian dishes, and vegetable pad thai? Vegan products are not just the tofu hot dogs you see at the grocery store, in fact I never eat those types of things and I'm vegan. "Vegan products" include all those things that you said you loved to eat, so it's not all "garbage". For lunch I'm having corn bread, fruit, and lasagna, all things that I'm sure you would love. I would say that you should maybe give "vegan products" another chance. Go to Ester's Ethiopian restaurant and get the veggie plate or try out a falafal at any Mediterranean place.
David
Thu Nov 5 2009 00:25
I've tried eating vegan meals in before. They're often not at all tasty. I'd rather have Stubb's brisket or a steak for dinner than that garbage any day. Also, I'm not arguing that fruits and vegetables aren't wholesome. I grew up eating out of my grandparents' garden and some of my favorite dishes are vegetarian. I'm particularly fond of vegetable pad thai at Thai Noodle House behind 7-11 on the Drag. Nonetheless, vegan products in general are not impressive.

Also, Vegan - don't try to discuss something that you're obviously not knowledgeable about. The economy is steadily pulling out of the recession and is beginning to look healthy again.

Vegan
Wed Nov 4 2009 12:45
Unbearable vegan products? Like fruits and vegetables? Processed stuff like veggie burgers and vegetarian barbeque riblets aren't the only, or even the primary, products vegans eat. Think produce. Human beings are omnivores not carnivores. Good thing too, because in the current economy anyone can grow beans and tomatoes, but it takes a lot of land to grow cows, open range or penned.
The Cowardly Liberal
Wed Nov 4 2009 09:15
David, when you're hanging for dear life on the edge of cliff, uncertain how much longer you can continue clinging and you happen to notice a strawberry growing from a bush on the cliff side, you should savor that strawberry. That's about the best any of us can do.
David
Tue Nov 3 2009 23:22
Cowardly Liberal, I seriously doubt that eating meat really has anything to do with life expectancy. The French in particular eat a lot of meat and, on average, live longer lives than Americans do. On that note, even if eating meat (red or otherwise) shortens my lifespan, I'll still enjoy it considerably more than trying to choke down many unbearable vegan products.
1911
Tue Nov 3 2009 15:58
I was at one of the big office supply stores a few weeks ago. They were protesting that somehow some of the products there were being tested on animals. The store was next to the gun show that I was just at..

I'm like, cool. I can buy some monkey torturing pens to go w/ my new gun. Sweet.

Also, who cares if we test on some animals. Since the law doesn't allow us to test on inmates, has to occur on something. People, its an animal. Who cares.

The Cowardly Liberal
Tue Nov 3 2009 15:14
Looks like you're the last man standing, Vegan. I'm going to just sit the rest of this discussion out. I guess I don't have a dog in this fight. Ha! You know, it's a funny thing how when a liberal encounters someone much further to the left than they are and how they (the liberal, uh, me) end up feeling kind of conservative in comparison. And I do not eat meat, period. Haven't in 20 years. It's just not a political thing for me, that's all. I really don't care what other people eat, though, like I said earlier, certain dietary choices come with consequences which some of my more conservative "friends" might have to deal with sooner rather than later. People who refuse to chose to restrict their diets will eventually be forced to restrict their diets. Fact of life, kids.
Vegan
Tue Nov 3 2009 14:36
CL:
So you're not a moral vegetarian then. But do you believe in using humans in place of other animals as product tester for biomedical research? Or do you trust a medications that have only been tested in a computer simulations? Just trying to pin down exactly what cause you're trying to help here.
The Cowardly Liberal
Tue Nov 3 2009 13:35
Vegan, you're making some sort of a joke right? With your pretend parts of animals? Tell you what: you keep believing and I'll keep pretending. How's that?

Hey, would you like to roll up a character in my magical world of make believe? Oh look, here comes the trolley, just in time to give you a ride to Mr. Roger's Neighborhood! Ding-ding, ding-ding. . .

Vegan
Tue Nov 3 2009 12:50
CL:
If you want to eat parts of pretend animals and believe that that is okay, it's fine by me. The question is, are you a moral vegetarian or just someone who doesn't like meat. If you're a moral vegetarian, then isn't eating pretend animals the moral equivalent of eating real animals. Sounds like hypocrisy to me. Why do you want the look and texture of meat in your food, but not the meat itself? I'm not interested in helping the cause of dietary self-deception -- eating disorders are at the end of that road.
AN
Mon Nov 2 2009 18:06
Again another misinformed PETA member. I’m a neurobiology major and I work in a lab that uses animals on campus. In my lab we are trying to find a cure for epilepsy and put an end to human suffering like other scientist who use animal. We use animals because contrary to what PETA says there aren’t any “alternatives”. What PETA doesn’t understand is that biology literary means the study of the science of life. How can one study life without using live beings? The so called “alternatives” that they list are ridiculous. For example PETA says scientists can use cell and tissue cultures instead of animals. Well where the heck do you think the cells and tissues come from? We can’t just go and take out part of someone’s brain to do experiments on. I’ve never had a single professor who thought using animals in research is bad science. If anything a great portion of our coursers are concerned with how to find the right specie for your research. The great question in neurobiology at this point is how to create better animal models not how to eliminate them from research. In fact some of the most credible scientific organizations (e.g American Academy of Neurology, Society for Neuroscience) have statements on their website in support of sensible use of animals in research. Contrary to what PETA says animals’ physiology and biology are strikingly similar to humans. The research using animals in labs in places like UT have led to treatments that are saving millions of lives every year. PETA members owe their lives to animal research and scientists who conducted that research.
The Cowardly Liberal
Mon Nov 2 2009 14:42
Excuse me, Vegan-- you're not helping the cause, you're hurting it. I've been a vegetarian for 20 years, quite possibly longer than you've been alive. There's nothing wrong with eating so-called meat substitutes. These cutely named little riblets are just so much textured vegetable protein packaged with a no doubt overly sweet sauce that would not fool any meat eater. It doesn't always have to be macrobiotic rice and vegetables. Just chill out and don't make such a fuss over your picky eating habits. Unless that's your whole scene, then go ahead. Still, when the Cowardly Liberal is having to jump on your ass, that's not a good sign.
Vegan
Mon Nov 2 2009 14:23
"vegetarian barbecue riblets" are an abomination as are veggie burgers. Either become a vegetarian or not, but don't cop out and eat so-called "meat substitutes". If a product hasn't been tested on other animals, it's being tested on humans. Humans are animals too. Why do you promote human testing of products?
The Cowardly Liberal
Mon Nov 2 2009 11:55
I heartily encourage my conservative "friends" to cut back on vegetables and subsist on a high fat diet consisting of mostly red meat. I plan on living a long life and I'd prefer it if you lot weren't around in my later years. You might also consider avoiding any form of daily exercise. For the love of God, do not ride a bicycle. That's a toy for kids that you should have given up years ago!
Leonard Martinez
Mon Nov 2 2009 04:41
I deplore cruelty to animals. That's why I put a scope on my Remington 700 Mountain Rifle. There's nothing like a clean kill.






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