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Creationists, evolutionists debate theories

By Melissa Pan

Daily Texan Staff

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Published: Wednesday, April 29, 2009

Updated: Wednesday, April 29, 2009

Austin Community College

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Austin Community College student Tina Louise Stokes takes notes during the debate “Was Darwin Wrong?” at Gregory Gymnasium on Tuesday

Against a backdrop of space, Hugh Ross presented a creationist model of the universe to both religious and non-religious audience members.

The department of biomedical engineering sponsored a debate on Tuesday evening in Gregory Gymnasium between creationist scholars and evolutionary experts. The Austin chapter of the Christian think tank Reasons to Believe conducted the event. The Atheist Community of Austin and the Christian organization Hill House co-sponsored the event.

Ross, founder and president of Reasons to Believe, created a presentation to illustrate the organization’s creationist model of the universe.

The existence of “fine-tuned” and “just-right” space features and Earth’s features provide evidence for a creator, Ross said. In his presentation he cited statistics, phenomena and the interpretation of Bible passages.

“We’re presenting a positive case of creationism,” he said. “We’re not trying to bash
evolution.”

Fazale Rana, vice president of research and apologetics at Reasons to Believe, gave a detailed presentation on biochemical systems, genetics and early life.

Gene expression in brain tissue is unique in humans and different from chimps — evidence for the theory of creationism, Rana said.

Michael Shermer, executive director of the Skeptics Society, presented what he called logical fallacies against the argument for creationism and also cited religious literature.

“Ross is picking and choosing biblical passages after he knows what the evidence is,” Shermer said. “the Bible is a book of mythology and history, and people will misunderstand The Bible if they interpret it the way Ross does.”

During a technology snag at the beginning of his presentation, Shermer told the audience to stand up and stretch.

“You may have heard some nonsense tonight, and I’m set to disprove that nonsense,” he said.

Some students at the debate supported evolution as the correct model of the universe and the origins of life.

“Creationism relies primarily on belief in a creator, and that’s silly,” said philosophy senior Steven Warren.

Some students countered with creationist beliefs based on religion.

“I personally believe in divine intervention,” said Elizabeth Benedict, a biology and allied health professions freshman. “I hope to get better ways to defend what I believe in.”

In response to Shermer asking whether people would give up their Christian faith if the creation model presented by Reasons to Believe was disproved, several people yelled “no.”

“I believe that answers my question,” Shermer said.

Comments

45 comments
Your name
Wed Apr 29 2009 08:31
"The existence of 'fine-tuned' and 'just-right' space features and Earth’s features provide evidence for a creator, Ross said."

Translation:

"The existence of 'fine-tuned' and 'just-right' space features and Earth’s features provide evidence for a MAGIC FAIRY, Ross said."

Sorry Ross, but you're a bloody idiot. Grow up or STFU.

Your name
Wed Apr 29 2009 08:28
Whatever, they're still retarded and it's still a disgrace they were invited to a university campus.

From the Reasons to Believe website:

"The creation-evolution debate is usually framed as science v. religion: verifiable fact v. faith. But we contend that it takes at least as much faith to believe in the theory of evolution as in creation by a supernatural God. And in reality, evolution has more characteristics of a 'myth' than of a scientific theory."

The basic facts of evolution are the strongest facts of science and these retards want to call evolution a myth.

These Liars for Jeebus want to throw out all of science to justify their childish belief in supernatural magic. They're a disgrace to this country, and they disgrace any university campus they're allowed to visit.

Where they belong is in an asylum wearing straitjackets.

By the way there is no creation-evolution debate. The issue was settled more than a century ago. Creationism = magic = medieval stupidity.

Tyger
Wed Apr 29 2009 08:01
Religion is NOT science. Let's stop the stupid debating. I have Wiccan friends who believe in magick, but they don't claim it's science. Why can't the christians leave it alone? (Sigh)
Brian
Wed Apr 29 2009 05:16
Um, no. They don't believe that. They believe in the standard age of the universe held by most scientists: 13.7 billion years old. Please get your facts straight before criticizing their view.
Your name
Wed Apr 29 2009 03:40
The Christian "Reasons to Believe" organization claims the entire universe was magically created 6,000 years ago. Why were these retards allowed to speak on a university campus?






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