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Controversial speaker calls Gaza 'massacre'

By Ben Wermund

Daily Texan Staff

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Published: Wednesday, April 29, 2009

Updated: Wednesday, April 29, 2009

Kevin Brassel

Peyton McGee/The Daily Texan

Middle Eastern studies junior Kevin Brassell listens to Norman Finkelstein’s speech on the Israeli-Palestinian conflict on Tuesday night. Finkelstein, an author, spoke for nearly three hours defending the Palestinian cause.

On Israel Memorial Day, the Israeli-Palestinian conflict found its way to UT as a controversial author explored alternative views of recent events in the region.

Norman Finkelstein, an author and former faculty member at several universities, redefined terms used to describe the 22-day conflict in the Gaza Strip at the end of last year in front of an overflowing crowd at the Will C. Hogg Building on Tuesday night.

He defined the conflict as a massacre, citing greater Palestinian than Israeli losses.

“Currently it is being referred to as the Gaza War and will probably regrettably go down in history as such,” he said. “What happened in the Gaza Strip doesn’t meet the minimum conditions of war.”

Finkelstein formed the rest of his talk around events he views as catalysts of the “massacre,” discussing the history of the conflict in the region and frequently presenting information that was critical of Israel.

The event was sponsored by seven campus organizations: the Palestine Solidarity Committee, the International Socialist Organization, Campus Progress, Austin Coalition for Palestine, Iranians for Peace and Justice, Amnesty International and the Campus Antiwar Movement to End Occupation.

Members of Texans For Israel handed out flyers titled “Finkelstein vs. The Facts” outside the auditorium.

“We came to hand out some of the facts,” said Yoni Cohen, a member of Texans for Israel. “We want to let people see the other side — the truth.”

Cohen said that while Texans for Israel was originally involved in organizing a joint event along with the Palestine Solidarity Committee, it ended talks with the group over differing opinions of what the event should actually be.

“TFI wanted to collect food for children affected by the conflict in Israel,” he said. “We thought, ‘Let’s start with something that will help both sides, not a debate.’ Just because there’s fighting there doesn’t mean the students should be fighting here.”

Rabbi David Komerofsky, executive director of Texas Hillel, a sponsor of Texans for Israel, voiced his concerns over the date for Finkelstein’s visit.

“I think it’s unfortunate that it’s happening on Israel Memorial Day,” he said. “This is a day that Israel commemorates those who have died in terrorist attacks or fighting [in the Gaza Strip].”

Philosophy senior Isaac Kalish said the dates were entirely coincidental.

“It was purely a matter of fitting in Dr. Finkelstein’s schedule,” he said.
 

Comments

16 comments
mark
Tue Aug 4 2009 18:46
I've come to have lost all respect for Jews as the overwhelming majority of you people love only yourselves and Israel. Jews can no no wrong in the eyes of other Jews. I now fully understand why Hitler wanted all Jews out of Europe. You people are a curse upon ANY nation you set your foot in. If you think I am a Nazi you're quite wrong.
Just an average American. Many of us are waking up to you awful people.
Committed Person
Tue May 5 2009 01:29
Serious student,

Your message is not entirely clear about Finkelstein. Are you Pro-Palestinian and feel that Finkelstein is not genuine in his committment to the Palestinians, or leaning towards Zionism and feel he is an extremist.

Your name
Mon May 4 2009 08:45
Perhaps you are also clueless.

No where in this article does it say the "date was originally chosen in consultation with Texans For Israel". In fact, the talks fell through long ago, which was largely due to differing opinions of both parties on how a joint event might look. In reality, the details of a proposed joint event never even got to the point of naming participants. In other words, NF was brought in at the will of others, regardless of TFI.

Anti-Gaza
Thu Apr 30 2009 17:52
Bomb Palestine!
K. Feyh
Wed Apr 29 2009 15:22
To Mike D:

Let's have an intellectually honest discussion about the anti-Palestine industry in the US. It includes $10.9 billion in US weapons to Israel from 1996-2005, and $3 billion per year in economic and military aid. Finkelstein would have to charge one hell of an honorarium to compare.

Nina Messenger
Wed Apr 29 2009 15:11
How can you (writer of article) find it relevant to mention that "Fact Sheet" in your brief article? Surely there were many other points you could have touched upon. The Fact Sheet was not facts- that's not a biased opinion- it was literally just random quotes, including from Hitler, which had nothing to do with anything! Did you even read it? By merely mentioning the Fact Sheet at all, you
are giving it some degree of authority/relevance which it does not deserve. The fact sheet was a lazy attempt on behalf of dissenters of NF and your mentioning it is a lazy attempt at trying to show "balance" in your article.
Your name
Wed Apr 29 2009 15:02
Funny that the "fact flyers" Texans for Israel was handing out didn't have any group name or attribution on them - because they know that they're lies.

This article itself tells you almost nothing about what actually was said in the talk. The key points were that Israel committed the massacre in Gaza to
a) shore up its "deterrence capability" (i.e. making the rest of the region "fear" Israel again, by showing that it is a mad dog that will not hesitate to punish civilians).
b) protect itself from the "peace offensive" that was building against it, specifically the world consensus about diplomatic solution to the conflict, the arab peace initiative, and the 2008 cease-fire that Hamas was holding to.

The lecturer supported this argument with many factual details, usually straight out of the mouths of the Israeli leadership. Their primary (and illegal) motive is that they do not want to withdraw from the occupied West Bank.
He also brought out the role of the U.S. in supporting the status quo.

Unfortunately, the Texan's coverage is part of that structure that supports the status quo.
This article looks like its written by Texans for Israel.

Joshua Reback
Wed Apr 29 2009 14:24
I found this article when doing a Google News search. I remember his coming to Rutgers after the Israel-Hezbollah War in 2006. It was one thing to have critical perspectives on Israeli policies and actions, but the dude had an awkward affection for Hezbollah and Syria. He took everything public Hassan Nasrallah said for granted without questioning the authenticity of the man's statements. He is a pundit and isn't the first place I would go for an educated viewpoint as a Middle Eastern Studies major.
billclymer
Wed Apr 29 2009 14:09
I haven't seen the speach, but it must have been factual on target or it wouldn't have brought out the goons that always support Israel firsters that can justify killing 300 babies.using white phosphurs, dime klling unarmed cops, two for one snipers in a Warsaw type ghetto
Mike D
Wed Apr 29 2009 13:18
I continue to be amazed by the following Mr. Finkelstein--a discredited hack--has on certain college campuses, and in certain political circles. Surely, this says more about his passionate followers than it does about Finkelstein, himself.

Never mind the "Holocaust Industry," let's have an intellectually honest discussion about the "Anti-Israel Industry," especially on college campuses. What sort of fee does Finkelstein collect for writing books and giving lectures? What sums of money do groups like the PSC and the ACP spend on anti-Israel indoctrination?

Who deserves more credit: The producers of this product, or the consumers? Are you getting money's worth?

zap II
Wed Apr 29 2009 12:17
Uh oh, someone call the College Republicans, those aribiters of journalistic integrity. 300 sympathetic people pack a room to hear a lecture that is critical of Israel, and yet somehow some dudes who weren't there get half the coverage. Remember the complaints about the Ashcroft coverage? I guess not.
Mohamed Fakhreddine
Wed Apr 29 2009 11:42
It was a great speech. I'm glad we can talk more openly about Israel, Palestine and the two-state solution.
Serious Student
Wed Apr 29 2009 11:09
Finkelstein is not worthy of attention by any serious learners. His record in academia would disqualify from teaching at UT, and we students deserve to hear from real scholars and not self-promoting windbags who make their living off of other people's suffering. There will be no free Palestine until we who support the Palestinians stop taking people like Finkelstein seriously. It seems that the leaders of our local pro-Palestine groups are as inept as the terrible leaders of the Palestinian people.
Your name
Wed Apr 29 2009 11:09
Well I'm certainly looking forward to the comments on this article...
Cayce Smith
Wed Apr 29 2009 11:00
Wow the Daily Texan has managed to write another horrible piece.

First of all, anyone looking at TFI's "facs" sheet could see it was an absolute joke. As one of their "facts" that Israel wants peace, they sited its Declaration of Independence. Each and every one of us knows that just because the US constitution stated that all men were created equal that it wasn't simply therefore true that the US would treat all people (both men and women) equally. I'm sure that as college students we can think a bit more critically than that.

Finkelstein's view may be "alternative" here in the US, but it's certainly not an anomaly in most of the rest of the world.

So far as the date, why in the world should PSC have to first check to see what day it is for Israelis? Gaza was just destroyed, with about 400 Palestinian children killed. Anyone who thinks this doesn't deserve just as much attention as Israel's fallen soldiers certainly does not respect humans equally. Similarly, when PSC had a memorial for Gaza and used shoes to represent the deaths and casualties, someone wrote in to say that it was inappropriate because it resembled Holocaust memorials. It seems obvious that certain people simply do not want the suffering of the Palestinians to be recognized and thus to distract attention from the subject, focus on the way in which it is done, or the day on which it is done.

Furthermore, the double standard here is ghastly. Nobody would be asking the same thing of TFI. Who in TFI would actually think to NOT hold an event because it was the anniversary of Sabra and Shatila? Or the start of the occupation? Or the invasion of Lebanon? Or Naqba Day? Or the anniversary of the massacre in Gaza (and the list goes on and on?) The destruction rained upon the Palestinians and Lebanese by Israel has been far more brutal than anything they are capable of incurring upon the Israelis, and to attempt to minimize recognition of that because of Israel's Soldier's Day is absolutely inhumane.

I've been to the graves of soldiers in Israel on that day. I saw the families crying for their loved ones. But never did it make me feel that no one should mention the children massacred by Israel, or the brutal 40-year occupation that I saw there. Why? Because their families are weeping too, and there are scores more of them. They are also likely to be without a home, without a job, and without adequate access to electricity or water or basic medicine. So if we're going to honor humanity, let's be fair. No state's official day of suffering should be an excuse to squelch out anyone else's anguish.

Sterling Garmon
Wed Apr 29 2009 10:49
Ben Wermund is clueless.

I particularly like the idea that after Israel kills 1300 Palestinians in Gaza (with 13 Israelis killed on the other side), most of which were civilians by Israel's own admission now, including 300 children... after all that, the Palestinian side is supposed to choose the dates of all their events to conform to Israel's poor sensitivities.

It is particularly ironic given that the approximate date was originally chosen in consultation with Texans For Israel anyways... they backed out of the event, PSC went ahead with it in the same time period they had agreed to, and then TFI complains about the date!! Grow up already.