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Concealed weapons restricted at Capitol

Despite bill to allow guns on campuses, citizens cannot carry in seating galleries

By Lena Price

Daily Texan Staff

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Published: Tuesday, April 21, 2009

Updated: Tuesday, April 21, 2009

Though members of the Texas House of Representatives and Senate may carry legally concealed handguns into the legislature, spectators watching from the seating galleries above the floors are no longer permitted to do so.

Signs citing a section of the Texas Penal Code dealing with concealed handgun licenses were posted recently next to the metal detectors around the entrance to the House and Senate galleries. Though guns are currently banned from the galleries of the House and Senate, the House Committee on Public Safety recently passed a bill that would allow citizens to carry concealed handguns on college campuses.

State troopers outside the galleries stop people with concealed weapons from entering. Tela Mange, a spokeswoman for the Department of Public Safety, said the signs were posted at the request of the House and Senate, but she was unsure how long ago they were placed there.

“People can legally carry concealed handguns anywhere in the Capitol they want as long as there are no signs posted,” Mange said.

The concealed carry on campus bill was authored by state Rep. Joe Driver, R-Garland, who could not be reached for comment.

Marsha McCartney, president of the North Texas Brady Campaign, saw a problem with the inconsistency between the bill and the signs.

“It’s interesting that they want guns in the classrooms but Texans can no longer carry into the gallery of the House or Senate,” McCartney said. “It’s very curious they decided to hang these signs after all these years, and I’m not sure what prompted it.”

Biology sophomore Joseph Boudreau, UT representative for Students for Concealed Carry on Campus, said the organization is not concerned with obtaining concealed-carry rights anywhere except on college campuses.

“We just think that college students right now are being deprived of their rights to self-defense on campus,” Boudreau said.

In order to receive a concealed handgun license, citizens must be at least 21 years old, qualify to carry a handgun under federal and state laws and complete the required training.

Boudreau said it has been proven that concealed handgun license holders are among the most law-abiding citizens in the country.

State Rep. Lon Burnam, D-Fort Worth, strongly opposes Driver’s concealed-carry bill.

“Every professional in the field has said it is a bad idea,” Burnam said. “Professors have said they don’t want to issue F’s or D’s to student who may be carrying concealed weapons.”

Though the Legislature prevents citizens from entering the galleries with concealed weapons, Burnam said several of his colleagues carry guns onto the floor of the Legislature.

“I would rather not talk about the hypocrisy of my colleagues,” Burnam said.
 

Comments

16 comments
Price's Write!
Thu Aug 27 2009 20:42
People can be rude when commenting on stories. You can state your opinion without being rude. I think the writer did a wonderful job and her writing is top notch.
Brian
Tue Apr 28 2009 17:24
So when some deranged madman comes on campus and starts shooting up the place and I pull out my concealed handgun to take him out, what exactly will prevent someone else with a concealed handgun from shooting me when they run into the room and see me holding my gun?

As law-abiding as these CHL holders have been "proven" to be, I would much rather have trained law enforcement handle the shooting. That's why we have campus police forces. I am simply not convinced that 10 hours of training makes you competent in a combat situation.

David Williams
Tue Apr 21 2009 22:59
I have written my Senator and Congressman to push for this bill to be placed on the floors of the legislature for vote. Everyone needs to contact their Senator and Congressman to do the same. This Bill is critical for the safety of our children in Colleges and Universities around Texas.
Michael
Tue Apr 21 2009 22:30
That is why college campuses should be referred to as "victim disarmament zones."

or "Target-Rich Environments"

Ymal Brucker
Tue Apr 21 2009 15:29
But concealed firearms ARE allowed in legislative offices and meeting rooms, hallways and cafeteria. If you want an exact parallel, perhaps guns should be allowed on campus except during deliberations of the student senate.
tired
Tue Apr 21 2009 15:13
Lena Price obviously did not attend or watch the public hearing since this was dealt with then and there, and Marsha McCartney was there and heard the reasons for the rule.
Geoffrey Geiger
Tue Apr 21 2009 14:55
Who said this is newsworthy? People already know about the Capitol gallery rules.
Think before you speak
Tue Apr 21 2009 13:59
There is a difference between a place that has a secured entry checkpoint - the gallery - and a public campus where anyone can walk in.

It's not rocket science!

Adam
Tue Apr 21 2009 13:08
Fidelitas,

Can YOU take full responsibility of guns, like typewriters, being "exercised with constraint, practice, and mastery"?

Your faithful servant, Fidelitas
Tue Apr 21 2009 13:02
HW Fan, I couldn't agree with you more.

Most supporters of this measure have actually presented non-emotional, logical arguments for their cases. Most opponents of concealed carry on camps have, on the other hand, only presented emotional arguments. I want to be against concealed carry on campus, but sadly, I have yet to be persuaded by logical, legal arguments. Instead, all I hear, or rather read, is that to be for concealed carry on campus must mean I am violent, irrational, stupid, and a "racist." All opponents to concealed carry have done to prove is Godwin's Law.

The Texan meanwhile, is arguing and shouting for freedom of the presses, and drafting editorials they pass as news, against the 2nd amendment. We must be weary that, while guns are not toys, but rather instruments, so is a typewriter. Both must be exercised with constraint, practice, and mastery. To not do so is to betray the very foundations and principles of our republic and democracy.

H.W. Fan
Tue Apr 21 2009 12:25
Pardon me...All Burnam is doing is promoting an environment *of fear*. Strange that didn't show up in my last post...
H.W. Fan
Tue Apr 21 2009 12:24
Burnam also went on to say that the US was the largest exporter of landmines during that speech. All he is doing is promoting is an environment. All of the experts DO NOT agree that CHL on campus is a bad idea. In fact, there IS NOT a single statistic to support the idea that allowing CHL holders to carry on campus would make the campus any less safe. That being the case, it does not meet the burden of proof to restrict a constitutional right. I think its funny how you democrats get to pick and choose what parts of the constitution apply and which do not. If you think that the second amendment no longer applies to todays times, then seek an amendment to the constitution. Like it or not, the text of the Constitution is the Supreme law of the land.

Let us never forget that it is a Constitutional that we are expounding!

Insider
Tue Apr 21 2009 12:14
The bill to allow concealed handguns on college campuses will die in the Texas Senate.
Tony Ronald McDonald ain't got the brain of a single flea...
Tue Apr 21 2009 12:01
Tony, Ronald McDonald you red nosed clown, please spare us your wisdom... When you learn right from wrong, when you acknowledge what a hipocrite and ain't got the brain of a single flea, cracker, racist scum bag you and your family are, well then we just might listen to what you have to say, in the meantime keep your stupidity to yourseld and stick it where the sun don't shine...
Beauford T. Justice
Tue Apr 21 2009 09:58
Do we really want vigilantes shooting people on campus? That is the purpose of the bill, so vigilantes can shoot people they suspect might be doing something wrong.
Tony McDonald
Tue Apr 21 2009 09:02
This is a sham article, intended to draw parallels where there are none. What y'all fail to point out is that the galleries have a metal detector at the door -- meaning they are an actually secure environment. Just like an airport or a courthouse, "gun free zone" actually means something when we speak of the house and senate galleries.

Not so with college campuses. No one is advocating putting up metal detectors on campus buildings, so the current "gun free zone" is an empty proclamation. Only people who aren't willing to break the law are "gun free." Anybody who wanted to carry on campus could do so, and could probably continue to do so for a long period of time without being caught.

That is why college campuses should be referred to as "victim disarmament zones."







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