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Ashcroft gets mixed reception

Former attorney general encounters protestors, supporters during speech on campus

By Andrew Martinez

Daily Texan Staff

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Published: Thursday, March 26, 2009

Updated: Thursday, March 26, 2009

Demonstrators

Sara Young/The Daily Texan

Demonstrators gathered to voice their opinions before former Attorney General John Ashcroft arrived at the UTC.

Brandon Whittenberg

Sara Young/The Daily Texan

War veteran Brandon Whittenberg questions Ashcroft after his speech Wednesday evening.

The stage was set for former Attorney General John Ashcroft to speak on campus Wednesday night well before he arrived.

A group of protesters stood around the double doors of the crowded University Teaching Center lecture hall waving signs of dissent.

“It’s okay, I wasn’t using my civil liberties anyway,” one person’s sign said. “War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength,” read another, echoing George Orwell’s words.

Despite the small number of banner-waving protesters who booed as Ashcroft first appeared, there seemed to be a buzz of anticipation before the former attorney general began to speak on his controversial political career.

Most in attendance were respectful of Ashcroft’s right to speak, but as he took to the stage, a procession of about 15 protesters marched single file to the back of the room holding their signs.

Ashcroft began the night by poking fun at his own political past, drawing applause from all corners of the room upon mentioning his failed 2000 Missouri Senate race, when he lost to a dead candidate. That humorous moment was the last time the politically charged audience agreed on anything.

”What’s absurd about this event is that Ashcroft is someone, along with many people in the Republican Party, who is totally irrelevant in American politics,” said mathematics sophomore Michael Schwartz. “This is the guy who, without any remorse, ripped up the Constitution.”

Not everyone who attended the event, however, had a negative opinion of Ashcroft.

“Whether you agree with him or not, he has a lot of leadership experience, and I want to learn from what he has to say,” said College Republicans Treasurer Justin May. College Republicans and Young Conservatives of Texas co-hosted the event.

At numerous times throughout his speech, Ashcroft had to pause in response to comments made by the line of protesters in the back.

“I appreciate the fact that I’m not welcome back there,” Ashcroft responded to one comment, “But your voice is not welcome up here.”

Ashcroft spent much of the night discussing the Patriot Act, explaining what he believes to be the fundamentals of the act: roving wire taps and increased communication between law enforcement agencies. Ashcroft tried to explain the importance of the law in protecting American lives. Many agreed and showed their support with applause. Others disagreed in low-groaning boos.

“I think history will be very kind to [former President George W. Bush],” Ashcroft said as he began discussing the powers of the president, drawing cheers and gasps.

Ashcroft acknowledged the fact that Bush is not a perfect man and made some mistakes.

However, he made sure to express his support of the former administration, describing many of its policy decisions as “necessary.”

At one point Ashcroft noticed a dry-erase board to the side of the stage and began to describe the overlap of power between Congress and the president to declare war. As Ashcroft made his way to the right side of the stage, one protester made sure to exclaim, “No, it’s not a waterboard!” Ashcroft didn’t hear him and proceeded to draw a Venn diagram.

“I don’t know of anybody who says that the president shouldn’t have any authority to declare war,” Ashcroft said. “The deliverablity and lethality [of weapons] are at a different level today.”

Ashcroft said he doesn’t regret any decisions he made during his time as attorney general.
“I don’t have a mark on my conscience,” Ashcroft said.

Wanting to end the night on a positive note, Ashcroft fell back on the safety net of freedom, discussing America’s responsibility to make the world a better place.

“Freedom is important, and it is our responsibility,” he said. “My greatest privilege has not been holding any government position but seeing that liberty will prevail.”

But from the mouth of John Ashcroft, even that comment recieved about as many boos as cheers.

Comments

49 comments
Al
Thu Mar 26 2009 18:55
Oh noes! Conservatives on THIS campus?!
Let's get 'em!!!!1!!!1!!!!!!1!
[grabs pitchfork]
Hi James
Thu Mar 26 2009 17:49
Hi James, sorry we ruined your evening. About the Hiroshima remark... what was offensive or irrelevant about it? At that moment, JA was talking about the use of nuclear weapons to kill people. WHEN HAS THAT HAPPENED AND WHO DID IT?
Tyler Norris
Thu Mar 26 2009 17:46
I do think I have a respectable job though... Bonus creeper points if you know that as well.
Tyler Norris
Thu Mar 26 2009 17:44
Whoo Creepy! Little Deb, I do indeed need a haircut... quite odd you'd know that.
Little Debbie
Thu Mar 26 2009 17:29
Nope, Tyler. Your mommy and your daddy got together one night and made a little fascist. Has nothing whatsoever to do with taking a bath. Isn't it about time for a haircut, old fellow? Here's a hint: your man Sager owns Supercuts. Get a haircut, then get a real job.
Tyler Norris
Thu Mar 26 2009 17:19
@ Nicola,

I suppose taking a bath makes me a little fascist dunnit?

IHOP
Thu Mar 26 2009 17:01
Was Ms. Brianna Becker in attendance? My pancakes are looking a little dry, could you ask her to pass the "syrup?"
Nicola Sacco
Thu Mar 26 2009 16:35
That's amusing, Tyler. Don't you a bath to take now? Run along and wash up. There's a good lad.
Dan the Man
Thu Mar 26 2009 16:24
I wonder how many of you people here were actually at the meeting...
Tyler Norris
Thu Mar 26 2009 16:23
@ Debs

While there are video games to play you will waste time, while there is weed you will smoke it... etc etc... we get the drill buddy, whatever makes you happy in that mind of yours.

Eugene Debbs
Thu Mar 26 2009 16:16
“While there is a lower class I am in it; while there is a criminal element I am of it; while there is a soul in prison, I am not free.”
Josh Perry
Thu Mar 26 2009 16:03
Wow Eugene. That was clever. I was merely responding to the terrible journalism in this piece. Anyone who attended the lecture last night knows for a fact that it was incredibly innacurate.

And since we are taking jabs at me now. Being familiar with 1984 isn't exactly a sign of great intelligence. Hell, even I, a conservative have read it several times. I suggest getting to know someone a little better before making personal attacks. I am incereibly aware of how ugly politics gets. I work in the arena every day, but there is no excuse for making your paper look bad with shoddy reporting.

So thanks for your opinion Eugene, I'll take it into consideration.

Josh Perry

Blind mice
Thu Mar 26 2009 15:54
Aschcroft is crooked. Who would look to someone like him for "leadership". Blind man leading the blind.That false sense of history vindicating Bush is fraudmongering. Ignore and trample the constituion is what the Bush tied republicans have reduced themselves to. They are devoid of conscience and that above the law mentality is offensive.
Colin Harris
Thu Mar 26 2009 15:46
@ Kelly

My highlight was the answer: "Because we didn't break any laws."

Colin Harris
Thu Mar 26 2009 15:42
@Is that all you got?

Actually, I wear Armani cologne.

Sheer Barratry!
Thu Mar 26 2009 15:30
Okay, let me guess: some whiny conservative sent out an email requesting a response and has been Sager and a handful of right leaning dupes came to the rescue. Just stop, alright? Your little revolution failed and the American people won. Maybe you'd find the reporting in the Battalian more to your liking. Yes, that's right. At that other college down the road, Texas A&M. Did you get bad directions or something?
b stein
Thu Mar 26 2009 15:19
If this article was supposed to be a joke, I'm not laughing. It is useless to point out the outrageous inaccuracy of the reporting here because everyone who was there knows it. What should be noted is the fact that even though left wing liberals constitute the overwhelming majority of students and faculty at this great university, you can't even write one simple article without injecting severe bias. Are you afraid that some people might actually have an open mind about things if they heard the truth? Well, you should be afraid. Someday your ideological stranglehold may not be so overwhelming.
Eugene Debbs
Thu Mar 26 2009 14:58
Yeah, Joshua, did you notice how the writer was familiar with Orwell's 1984? That says it all right there. He could have at least had the decency to reference Leo Strauss. Oh, but you probably have no idea who that is. Sorry, I need to remember I'm dealing with a YOUNG conservative. Grow up and develop a thicker skin. Maybe you picked the wrong hobby/resume padding (paddling?) fraternity. You strike me as a little too high strung and overly prone to drama to make it in the cut throat world of politics.
Bob
Thu Mar 26 2009 14:54
Andrew your writing SUCKS ! A 4th grader could have done better.
James
Thu Mar 26 2009 14:52
My girlfriend and I made the unfortunate choice of sitting towards the back where the "protesters" would eventually stand. After my girlfriend could take no more of the heckling, she turned and said, "you are making your organization look stupid," at which the hecklers promptly replied, "yeah, a stupid marine." In other words, the "protesters" were as quick to heckle us as they were John Ashcroft. I should add that my girlfriend is a registered democrat, a veteran, and campaigned for Howard Dean.
I believe in the power of public protest, and those in attendance would have been more effective if they had stood quietly with their signs and contributed to a defiant atmosphere. I think that had a valid point, one that I probably would agree with. But by making a loud ignorant remark every thirty seconds, including some unconsciously offensive and irrelevant outbursts such as shouting "Hiroshima," I felt nothing but disdain for their night of self-deprecating behavior.
One final point. If any one intends to protest in the future at events like these and, god forbid, participate in the Q@A, please do your research about the speaker. John Ashcroft was asked to help a disabled veteran receive benefits, something that he can obviously not do as a civilian and that would have been out of his jurisdiction even as attorney general.
I should add that Ashcroft himself presented little substance. I was hoping for a heated evaluation of the Obama administration's domestic security policies. Instead, I saw convex cells used to demonstrate the overlap of powers between Congress and the President, something that seemed misguided considering that this overlap is largely the product of the Cold War and not current politics.
Finally, Ashcroft ominously said during his speech that 9/11 was committed "by a foreign power." I would love to know which foreign power Ashcroft was referring to, because it certainly was not Afghanistan or Iraq.






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